'79 CDV: 425 out 500 in!

Ron, thanks for the pic- that's about what I think I'll end up doing, the old spark wheel will get a good workout doing that hack! lol

Checked the Jeg drop base suggestion, the base I have has got about the same drop(1.32") but it is 17" dia, may have to go to the 14" base after all, will know more Monday.

What is the rear wheel and tire size on your car? Did you do any metal reworking or is it stock all the way?

Bruce,
 
Doc Zinger said:
What is the rear wheel and tire size on your car? Did you do any metal reworking or is it stock all the way?

Bruce,

I had 275/60R/15 BFG Drag Radials (28" diameter) with the 8" suburban ralleys. Ya, I trimmed the inner lip some to be safe and for an easier takeoff and install.

The wheels now are style 13 Centerline Telstars 8" x15 with M/T 29.5/15/ 9" slicks with tubes.

Ron
 
Guess it's been about a week since I'v posted anything on this build. Had to take care of some things that need attention but got put off for some more important things( like working on a car.)

Back to the car, have been working on a plethora( not the word I wanted to use but couldn't spell it- how the hell you look up a word you can't spell in the dictionary? :cursing: ) of problems that hadn't been taken care of.

Got the hood to close by reworking hinges- doesn't snap shut like it should but will deal with in in the spring before painting. Hood closed with all the air cleaner stuff in place, had to do some reworking but just about same set up as pervious pics. Got the 4 cross brace rods to work by raising the fender mount points 2" and bending the rods a little. :mischievous:

Ran into some other problems that I may have found earlier if I checked. This is the first time I've done this much to a car so I may have checked things out of sequence which led to delays. The problems would have still been there, just may have found them in a more efficent mannor. Is there a master check list for this shit? :eyebrow:

Tried to pull the valve covers for the oil priming, and found the drive's side wouldn't clear the brake booster by about 1/4 to 3/16", had already had to relocate/rotate the wiper motor to clear- should have checked every thing at that time. :weeping:
Don't want to have to pull booster every time the cover might need to come off so I looked into getting a 9" double diaphragm booster instead of the stock 11". Couldn't find one that had the same mount stud length and rod length, found some with one ok but not the other. Parts guy had printed Cardone master catalog but no list by specs only applications, we pulled the few he had in stock but no luck. Guess they cover any liability by listing by application so some guy doesn't try to cobble together something that may or may not work then try to sue them if it doesn't. So I got a rebuild 11", which I was going to get soon anyway and a new master cylinder, all nice a shinnie- no clean up. :yes:

Spent last few days doing the electric and vac hook ups. Since I eliminated some of the emissions equipment( like most of it) thus some switches and the A/C ,there are some wires that will not be used. Also some vac switches are gone, think I have figured the reroutes and connections needed now, good thing I have the full factory manuals. Did one screw up by eliminating the cruise control, didn't realize the vac line also provides all vac for under dash stuff-like A/C heater, and park brake release, :irked: so I need to rehook up that line, used the though firewall holes for the oil pressure and water temp lines, but think there is enough room to drill new hole.

I think most of the vac and temp switches on this car and this time period were simple enough to eliminate and not run into things being turned off or opening a circuit, but it takes a little time to rework every thing atleast for me. :scratchchin:

Was under car hooking up ground strap when I reached up and grabbed the engine crossmember to pull myself out and felt something not right. Found the fuel return line and fuel tank vent line crushed in 2 spots. Was from the deeper oil pan and the effort to install engine, thought I checked this but maybe not, brake line is ok. Think Ted had mentioned checking this area on a post. Well its checked now bigtime, will have to cut out section and splice connector, with the way the factory routed these 2 lines I maybe able to pull them and reroute for more slack. Will be more of a PITA than difficult. Glad I don't do this stuff for a living! :yikes:

Putting in disb tomorrow and doing final wiring, should be getting close, need to get the video camera working soon.

Bruce,
 
After a few more delays and some new problems I have done the (hope) final mock up. Will try to start up for break in with some help from a friend on Sat.

A few pics on the final look.

Bruce,
 

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Looks real good, almost too factory. And it looks like it is still under that outdoor enclosure, in the driveway, out in the cold. My hats off to you, can not wait for the start up and first drive.

John
 
Looks great Dude. Truely a remarkable job. Hope it runs as good as it looks.

"EZ"
 
I must say thats probably the best dual snorkel ram air system that i've ever seen. So hard to
pull off without it dominating the engine compartment and yours is so subtle . Great job! :thumbup:
 
IT STARTED!!!! :yikes: after a bunch of delays and some cold weather( for Seattle) delays, I finally got the thing started today/Thurs.

Turned over for about 20 sec or so and came to life, got it up to 1800/2000 as soon as possible and let it run for 15/20 mins, had to do 1 restart(put more fluid in trans before restarting) but overall it seemed to go well, had oil pressure consistant at 45#, temp never went above 190 degrees, but it was a cool day 50 or so.

The thing just seems to throb with power even at this stage :yes: doesn't sound like any Caddy I've ever heard, hope the cam came in ok, not sure how you tell? Will work on dialing in timing and idle in AM.

Just glad it started, haven't done an engine for 30+yrs and nothing like a performance build ever, so you have some doubts about success. There still could be issues but one more step to check off the list :beer2: Will film video tomorrow, am having problem with my camera letting in too much light around the edges of the picture/video, will hope for overcast day, pretty rare in the Seattle area I know but sometimes you get one. :mischievous:

Bruce,
 
Thanks for the encouragement and kind words, I should have done the start up earlier in the day, ran out of day light. Forgot to do some things that I've since thought of, like dumping 1st oil/filter while still warm, will have to do it tomorrow after setting timing and idle adjustments, hope it won't be a problem, seems like you have every thing all thought out and then the plan goes out the window in the excitement. Sure I'll think of some other stuff before morning.

Bruce,
 
Bruce, congratulations on your first fireup. Sounds like it was an easy birth. Is the exhaust and everything hooked up ? First ride will be interesting. How you gonna break it in ?
Have an early and merry Christmas and enjoy your new ride.

John
 
Short update, started out to work on car Friday, took borrowed tools back to machine shop in AM and told them I got it started. Went to parts store for yet another part and headed home, pulled out from stop sign at intersection and broke rear u joint on pickup. :cursing:
Had been having problems with the truck, but thought it was something else, was going to look at it as soon as the Caddy was out of the driveway. It didn't wait though, had to be towed about 4 blocks. Replaced joint on Sat, took awhile because some damage to clipped holes for joint caps plus rain most of the day( hard to believe in Seattle) got it fixed but one of the cap holes had partial break and the plate will need to be replaced soon, will work for now. :scratchchin:
Took Sunday off, Monday went back to work on car for 1st time since Thurs, got car started up right away,warmed up but ran rough and wouldn't idle down. The choke wouldn't pull off, checked voltage on + lead, no reading thought I had checked it before but showed 0, checked wiring but no change so I made a wire to go from fuse block inside at ign on to choke, took while to get wire through firewall and everything hooked up. Got 12 V when key is on, so that should heat up choke cap.
Ran into some fluid leaks, had to tighten hose clamps again on heater/radiator and had leak at tranny cooler lines, think I got they to stop but ran out of time for restart. Haven't had any oil pan, or water pump leakes so far, just around hoses.
Will try to get it adjusted for running/break in on Tues.
Got back air cleaner lid I had lettered at sign shop, not quite what I wanted but I should have layed things out better, lesson learned. A few pics of the badges and lettering.

Bruce,
 

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Looks pretty cool Man. Maybe just a different font for the letters?
Where did ya get the CDX letters? Is that Coupe DeVille Extreme?
Coupe DeVille Experimental? lol

Can't wait for the video!!

"EZ"
 
Recorded half assed video today, will see if it posts.
Filmed after 1st start of day and after oil change, got a little oil on pass-- side can see some smoke early. Sound wasn't as clear on video as live, seemed when I got close the sound source quality dropped off. The engine sounds ok in real time but a little rough and like things are rubbing/knocking in video but not the case.
Still need to get carb adjusted better, choke works just need to fine tune pull off, also need to work on idle mixture adjustment and fast idle.
Will try to make better, shorter video tomorrow now I know some things to look for and avoid.
I think the engine is running ok, but a few things making noise- like fan belts,exhaust bumping in a few places- will get system final adjusted and welded up next week ,should help.

Bruce,

PS: I've had this video for over a week, haven't been able to post to this site or my Yahoo video site, think the format (mpg) is ok and it's 63mgs so shouldn't be too long. Maybe part of the problem is I have dial up and any load takes forever.
I can convert to different format if needed, would like assist or the info on video posting, thanks.
 
It's going to be hard to post a 63MB video over dial-up.
Most sites will timeout too soon.
63MB is probably too big for an attached here. Maybe try the user albums? YouTube?

Maybe try lowering the resolution and changing the format to AVI (usually smaller files).
 
Ok, will try conversion to AVI and look into getting You Tube account. thanks.

EZ, got CDX off E bay, Dawoo has a SUV that had them for model badges, got 500 there too, from Ford Galaxie/Fairlane mid '60s.

Bruce,
 
It's been a good day, good night too -listening to Allman Bros at Filmore East as I'm writing this shit(got to be one of the all time great albums) :cloud9:

Finally got the car out of the drive way and onto the street, went about 35 miles or so, both street and some freeway. :yes:
Car ran good, but hope it will be alot better soon. Held it low gear and could lay rubber at will, didn't push it too hard. The tranny I had built by Ted's friend performed great, shifted without any slop or delay but not harsh, it just shifts with no BS. :yes: Didn't do any WOT because I don't have a kickdown switch set up yet, not sure if you can damage the tranny without it, working on solution. But I did hit it a little in 2nd and Hi but not all out.
You get the feeling that when you call for" Scotty- give me some more power" it's going to be there. :mischievous:
Got some small exhaust leakage around some of the clamps and one of the header/ports seems to leak even though the bolts have been tightned and are tight, :censored: but maybe its comming from the collector clamps, will get things welded up next week.
I think I haven't got the carb adjusted/ign timing as good as needed, but it will hold idle at 750-800 and not stallout, just a little hesitation from stop, will get some help dialing it in this week. Ran car with all the air cleaner stuff hooked up, kinda a PITA to remove everything to work on it but it looks good.
Need to do some more work on brakes, pedal still too soft, question if you don't get the master cylinder totally bled, can you still get the air out by bleeding the individual
wheel cylinders or will there always be air in the master cylinder.

Might have to go for a Sunday drive. :jack:

Bruce.
 
Guess I should get in a new post before I end up on page 3! Got exhaust system adjusted, new head pipes, and welded up yesterday. The guy did a great job on everything, trimed some off the over axle section and tucked everything up tighter. Nice to have a real professional do the work but get your wallet out! :weeping:

Still having some trouble getting consistant idle, going to have a shop I've used in the past give it a quick look and adjust with sniffer/scope tomorrow. :irked:

Have got about 120 miles in and sees to run ok once it gets moving, nice to just barely hit the throttle and feel the instant response. :yes:

Still haven't got video posted, got a You Tube account but still can't post-either format wrong or too slow with dial up, guess I'll have to bit the bullit and and go broad band or whatever. Well atleast I can watch it anytime, and the SOB is loud (but rough). :cool:

Bruce,
 
Went to shop today to get carb idle/mixture adjusted. They couldn't get any more consistant idle than I did, so pulled the primary bowel and meter block and found one of the idle passage inlet ports on the primary block was miss shaped. Don't know if this is the problem but it didn't look good. :irked:
Will get ahold of Holley and see if I can get a replacement :jack: just another delay on the road.

Bruce,
 
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