Showing you MY JUNK – Pictures Included!

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  1. Darius

    Darius Well-Known Member

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    Here we are, May 12th, Mother's Day in the year 2019 and the weather is FINALLY such that it invites us to be outside, or in our garages, and working on Big Block Cadillac engines!!

    Life it Good!

    Also, this being Mother's Day my son and I decided to bake a German Chocolate cake - from scratch - for "Mom!" Being gentlemen DSCN3640.JPG DSCN3641.JPG DSCN3642.JPG DSCN3644.JPG we did help in the sampling.

    Best to you All,

    bro. d
     
  2. Darius

    Darius Well-Known Member

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    Howdy Gentlemen,

    Wondering, (before using the search function - which I will do AFTER this) what experience folks here have had with the Sanden air conditioning compressors? It seems there are many knock-off of the Sanden as well. Anybody have experience with those?

    I memory serves I believe it is the Model 508 that best fits our big Caddy engines when they are equipped with the Edelbrock intake manifold. So what is the experience??

    Best,

    bro. d
     
  3. Mike P

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    I'm running Sanden 508s on 5 of my cars including the Caddy powered El Camino (with stock intake). Some have been on over 10 years and in the case of the El Camino over 80,000 miles. Never had one fail or need replaced. One of the five is a Chinese knock off ( I didn't read the E Bay ad close enough). It's always been a little noisy but works OK.
     
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    Darius Well-Known Member

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    Mike, thank you.

    I did use the search function and see that most suggest the Sanden TYPE or the factory original, which is the way I'll go. Looking for success, not do-overs.

    bro. d
     
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    I have been eyeballing the Sanden 4860 myself. It's in their FLX7 line. They have removable rear fittings in a variety of styles.
     
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    Darius Well-Known Member

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    QUESTIONS:

    Is the Sanden 4860 the same size externally as the 508? Will it fit in the same space (using the Edelbrock intake) and does it have equal cooling capacity? Displacement for the 508 is 8.3 (cubic inches?) but displacement for the 4860 is 155 (somethings).

    The specs are:

    Compressor Family: SD7H15
    Style: HD
    Mount Type: Ear 8 Long
    Ear ID: 83.3
    Refrigerant: R134A
    Displacement: 155.00
    Rotation Direction: CW
    Oil Qty (cc): 200
    Cylinder Head: GV
    Port Angle: H
    Port Clocking: Rear
    Head Port Style: O-Ring
    Rotor Size: 125
    Rotor Groove: A2
    Coil Voltage: 12
    Connector: 1 Wire Male Packard #12015791 W/ Diode

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    I know very little about air conditioning compressors. Numbers, I'm a little more familiar with. Since I live in Canada, and we are in between the metric system and the Imperial system, I would guess that the 155 is cubic centimeters (cc's for short). This converts to 9.46 cubic inches.

    Check it out. Maybe this will give you a starting point.

    Ken.
     
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    I guess the 4616 is a SD7h15 "enhanced" compressor. 15-20% improvement in capacity in the same package size. Big difference in price. These would both be the modern descendants of the 508.
     
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    Darius Well-Known Member

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    kboots16, MIHELA,

    Thanks to both of you.

    The "guess" that the 155 represents metric quantities is plausible which means that you probably right. I'll find out when I make a phone call to Sanden customer service technical.

    Good to know that the 508 series is "old news" and probably replaced by one of the other two mentioned. After having looked at them I don't see much difference either, other than one taking more oil than the other (if my memory is correct). Again, tomorrow's phone call will probably make sense of it all. At least that's the hope.

    Best,
    bro. d
     
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    Good info on the 4616. That’s what I’ll try to adapt to my application
     
  12. Darius

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    Well, life happened over that past two days and I never made the phone call to Sanden Customer Service to learn about the new replacements for the 508 series of A/C compressors. That will have to wait until next week.

    But, my TIG welding has improved!! Hell, it couldn't do anything but improve!! Pictures tomorrow - maybe.

    d
     
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    Following up on A/C compressors for our engines:

    The other day I thought I had found a phone number for Sanden but after searching today I gave up on making a phone call and wrote them instead. Here is the text of that note.

    "I'm a car hobbyist. Several associated and I favor the old, big Cadillac 500 cubic inch displacement engines. In the past when upgrading to newer intake manifolds our original Harrison A6 A/C compressors would not fit so many switched to your Sanden 508 units.

    Are the 508s still made, and if not, what part numbers would be a suitable replacement in physical size - and cooling capacity?

    Word is that your 4860 and FLX 7 lines might be possibilities.

    Thank you,

    Darius Gray
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    I’ll be curious to see what they tell you
     
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    Darius Well-Known Member

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    OKAY, REMEMBER THE RULE: No laughing allowed!

    Regarding TIG Welding - 101, Month #1

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    mario Well-Known Member

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    Bro d:
    Kinda reminds me of the Rosetta stone ...:whistle::whistle::whistle: you'll notice, I'm not laughing.
    Ciao,
    Mario
     
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    Darius Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the restraint. ;)

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    Everything that you thought you knew about TIG changes with stainless. I’m trying to get there myself.
     
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    I see rainbows on the top one, looks good to me......:thumbup:

    Doug in P.R.:cool:
     
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    hey D can you number them from 1st to last? looks better than anything Ive ever done. keep at it
     

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